Sheffield Occupational Health and Safety Association :: View topic - New CDM Regulations - Do we need to Notify?

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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 8:35 pm Reply with quote Back to top
I have three employed fitters installing a second hand press. We estimate that the installation will take us three months.

Do we need to notify this under the new regulations even though we are not using external contractors?

Is anyone able to provide us with any guidance, advice or details of how we should go able determining our duties?  
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:43 pm Reply with quote Back to top
The latest set of regulations and guidance seem to have been written in such all encompassing terms that frankly threading a needle now seems to fall under CDM. If you read what it covers in relation to undertakings, it's not just building and demolition activity, it's pretty much everything you could do to and in a building.

But speaking to the HSE their intent is that it's designed to cover major work where large businesses just aren't working to a good enough standard. But to the uninitiated, it really doesn't read that way. Large businesses at whom this is aimed can work it out. Small businesses at whom the new regulations really aren't aimed are quite understandably troubled.

But thy key question to ask is "Is this actually construction?" The definitions in the guidance shouldn't be taken out of context. Installing a machine into a workshop should not be seen as construction in my view. Not unless it requires dismantling of the building to get it in, or major work to secure it and provide power etc. It is not within the spirit of what the HSE are aiming for. However, if you look at the construction phase plan, it's a really good reminder of what to look for during the installation regardless of CDM. Not being under CDM doesn't mean that you can get away with unsafe working after all!
Trying to bring a sense of proportion to all of this.
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